tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post1558899123520719550..comments2024-03-26T01:21:57.869+00:00Comments on Supernatural Tales: A Row About Lovecraftvaldemarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03829872956512652469noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post-13417685232320239072014-08-26T21:58:00.927+00:002014-08-26T21:58:00.927+00:00Oops. Must have pressed the wrong button! I've...Oops. Must have pressed the wrong button! I've just read Nickle's article. He's clearly in a more difficult position, being a Lovecraft fan! I had no idea racism featured so prominently in Lovecraft's actual work: I only ever read three or four his stories and found them so hilariously bad I never bothered reading any more. <br />In Lovecraft's defence, none of the stories were racist. At least, as far as I can recall - it was a long time ago.<br /><br />I guess another good reason for not having the bust in Lovecraft's image would be the fact that he's not really a fantasy author (I wouldn't classify him as such, anyhow) but an author of the supernatural and the weird.Aonghus Fallonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434527113873901741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post-68607399374378130922014-08-26T21:46:04.056+00:002014-08-26T21:46:04.056+00:00I'm on holidays at the moment, with limited in...I'm on holidays at the moment, with limited internet access, so couldn't watch the video, but the controversy does raise interesting questions (for me, anyhow) as to when an artist's more dubious traits become an issue. People might buy Michael Jackson's albums, but have genuine reservations about - say - naming a children's hospital after him. In other words, people will give credit where credit is due, while still have reservations about a particular artist's private life, to the extent that they will want to define the *kind* of recognition they feel he is entitled to. I think this is fair enough. Lovecraft has a definite niche in the annals of speculative fiction, but I think his questionable views mean using his image for something like the World Fantasy Award is in poor taste. Why? Because the implication is that Lovecraft is representative of fantasy authors as a whole and this will carry some negative connotations. An award in his image, for authors who are fans and imitators of his work? Funnily enough, I think this might be OK, as what they are celebrating about Lovecraft is a lot more specific - ie, the particular oevre he created - and thus not open to myriad other interpretations.<br /><br />That said, I'm not a Lovecraft fan, so maybe I'm biased!Aonghus Fallonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434527113873901741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post-28985673879628480822014-08-25T16:56:25.073+00:002014-08-25T16:56:25.073+00:00Yes and I disagree with him, at least in making ra...Yes and I disagree with him, at least in making racism so central to Lovecraft's writing. I think ALIENATION is the core... of which his racism and atheism are facets. Lovecraft is not a man who is comfortable in his changing world (and he lived in a time of enormous alterations). <br />I think Joshi, who I'm not ordinarily a fan of, has some very good rebuttals to Mr. Order's fervent desire to alter the award. Timmy Crabcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737954661234574830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post-86559014753774644622014-08-25T16:14:35.858+00:002014-08-25T16:14:35.858+00:00Have you read Nickle's piece?Have you read Nickle's piece?valdemarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829872956512652469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3173887948269031901.post-72165103892872917922014-08-25T15:29:41.128+00:002014-08-25T15:29:41.128+00:00Then I suppose we should change ALL the awards tha...Then I suppose we should change ALL the awards that bear an artist's name or image... because most of them that are worth a damn also have some nasty badness to them of some form. Poe wasn't exactly and abolitionist... Picasso and Dali were complete bastards to the women in their lives. <br />It seems more about wanting to bury/whitewash the past... pretend that we ourselves are so much more enlightened and 'evolved'. Pointing at the 'racist' and 'misogynist' somehow reassures us that we can't ever be those things... which is just a delusion. Seems better to recognize them for what they are/were that to expunge them and pretend they don't matter. Timmy Crabcakeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737954661234574830noreply@blogger.com